the obama administration blocking it, now the case is moving throughout courts. tom fitness, president of judicial watch was in court yesterday when some of these arguments were heard by the appeals court. tom, how are you and good morning to you. i'm very intrigued by this. make your best case, why should we see them. >> the law requires their release. president obama almost immediately said we don't want to release the photos because we don't want to be seen as spiking the football. our freedom of information act doesn't have any exemption for spiking the football. and he may think these photos are politically controversial but we don't not follow the law just because the president is uncomfortable with the results of following it. bill: just a matter of as a matter of fact question, what do you think we would gain if we had access to the photos? >> we gain information about one of the most important military victories in the war against tere owe and the american people have a right to these documents under law, and we gain further respect for our rights under